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runt

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Pettits Lane, Marshalls Park, yesterday, I'd have posted sooner but for computer probs,I walked past these two muppets and told them what I thought, scandalous waste of public money and police manpower, this area seems to have been hit frequently of late, watch out!

Paul/runt

arebrec

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Thanks Paul, I'm back to work tomorrow and this is my area I drive through several times daily so will keep my eyes peeled....not that I ever go over anyway angel

oldsoak

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29 months

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runt said:
Pettits Lane, Marshalls Park, yesterday, I'd have posted sooner but for computer probs,I walked past these two muppets and told them what I thought, scandalous waste of public money and police manpower, this area seems to have been hit frequently of late, watch out!

Paul/runt
[devils' advocate mode]
mmm so a camera that makes people log on to a forum to warn others to watch out for it and probably causes them to slow down rather than blast through as they would normally...is this really a waste of anything?[/devils' advocate mode]

Seems to me it's doing what 'they' always say they're there to do....get people to slow down. wink

runt

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Yep, take it easy Tracey,as we are aware any modern car is around idle speed at 30.
Oldsoak ;this is just an easy means of generating more Gov. income, these two well fed gentlemen would have been better deployed fighting violent CRIMINALS is the point I'm making..this sort of behaviour alienates decent hardworking tax payers from the police..?

Paul/runt

14-7

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runt said:
this sort of behaviour alienates decent hardworking tax payers from the police..?

Paul/runt
So basically only enforce the rules you think should be enforced?


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Mr_annie_vxr

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38 months

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Exactly why you have self financing speed cameras.

Unless the OP thinks 30 limits should never be enforced at all?

FishFace

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runt said:
Yep, take it easy Tracey,as we are aware any modern car is around idle speed at 30.
Oldsoak ;this is just an easy means of generating more Gov. income,
Zzzzz change the record. A few £60 fines - fking hell that'll make or break the revenue which IIRC stands at over £550 billion.

Chances are the issues of speeding would have been raised at a meeting which involves the police and others. Oh I forgot, you hold the monopoly opinion on what the police should do.

runt

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Christ I seem to have landed on a police forum,and btw, some of you people are disgustingly selfish drivers, as we saw earlier this year, you kill pedestians,I say again; EASY nicking for you,consensus of opinion from many LAW ABIDING friends from all walks of society: egomaniacal traffic police are like a modern day 'SS',no one sympathises with he/she caught at 70 in a 30 zone, but too many are penalised for being maybe 4mph over.

Paul/runt

FishFace

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You landed 'on a police forum', which is titled, "Speed, Plod & the Law" - who'd have thought!


14-7

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runt said:
Christ I seem to have landed on a police forum,
It is called Speed, Plod and Law you know and many of the officers on here do post what the law states instead of just moaning about things.

runt said:
some of you people are disgustingly selfish drivers, as we saw earlier this year, you kill pedestians,
Presumably that's aimed at the police here. You seem ignorant to the fact that far more people are killed and maimed by ordinary joe public like you and me.

runt said:
I say again; EASY nicking for you,consensus of opinion from many LAW ABIDING friends from all walks of society: egomaniacal traffic police are like a modern day 'SS',no one sympathises with he/she caught at 70 in a 30 zone, but too many are penalised for being maybe 4mph over.Paul/runt
Slight chip on your shoulder?

Tim Horton

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Romford, like many other boroughs, have regular officers trained in the use of speed detection devices, as there are not enough traffic officers to deal with the problems of speeding that are RAISED by the local COMMUNITIES! Excess speed normally comes up as a major item when we consult with the community, so should we ignore the taxpayers?

Do you know Runt why they were there, or what speeds they were reporting people at? Perhaps you could ask them next time:-)


Guybrush

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Tim Horton said:
Romford, like many other boroughs, have regular officers trained in the use of speed detection devices, as there are not enough traffic officers to deal with the problems of speeding that are RAISED by the local COMMUNITIES! Excess speed normally comes up as a major item when we consult with the community, so should we ignore the taxpayers?
I think some common sense should be applied. Who are the main attendees at such meetings? Are they are reasonable representation of the area? In my experience it would seem attendees are mainly towards the older end of the spectrum and generally slower drivers who probably think everyone else is "too fast". The elderly, while being generally slow, feature more in accident frequency stastics and to listen and react to such people is not necessarily going to address the needs of the whole population. Reacting to the busy body who shouts the loudest is not helping the country.

runt

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No chip on shoulder; I have never had any points on the licence; my driving standard is important to me and I show courtesy and common sense on the road.. but I notice the distraction that scameras etc cause and thus the effect on traffic, didn't expect Police to be on here but anyway, enjoy your work.
As said, those who complain about speeding are likely
a) non motorists
b) grey porridge sleepy motorists
Thought only keen drivers inhabited P'heads forums!

Paul/runt

oldsoak

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runt said:
No chip on shoulder; I have never had any points on the licence; my driving standard is important to me and I show courtesy and common sense on the road.. but I notice the distraction that scameras etc cause and thus the effect on traffic, didn't expect Police to be on here but anyway, enjoy your work.
As said, those who complain about speeding are likely
a) non motorists
b) grey porridge sleepy motorists
Thought only keen drivers inhabited P'heads forums!

Paul/runt
...and you believe that all 'keen drivers' should have the same point of view as your own?

Boosted LS1

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runt said:
Thought only keen drivers inhabited P'heads forums!

Paul/runt
They do but as said this is mainly a bib forum so you landed in the wrong place, lol. Only come in here if you want to hear the party line these days or discuss it.

FishFace

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Guybrush said:
Tim Horton said:
Romford, like many other boroughs, have regular officers trained in the use of speed detection devices, as there are not enough traffic officers to deal with the problems of speeding that are RAISED by the local COMMUNITIES! Excess speed normally comes up as a major item when we consult with the community, so should we ignore the taxpayers?
I think some common sense should be applied. Who are the main attendees at such meetings? Are they are reasonable representation of the area? In my experience it would seem attendees are mainly towards the older end of the spectrum and generally slower drivers who probably think everyone else is "too fast". The elderly, while being generally slow, feature more in accident frequency stastics and to listen and react to such people is not necessarily going to address the needs of the whole population. Reacting to the busy body who shouts the loudest is not helping the country.
But that's not the fault of the people chairing the meetings. If people don't show up to show a cross-sections of views what more can they do?

Tim Horton

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I was just about to say the same... If people who turn up at meetings or otherwise contact the police then why should we ignore them. Sometimes there is a perception of excess speed which turns out to be wrong but often they are right. I use common sense but if you slow down you have nothing to fear.

FishFace

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The people on this forum seem (like?) to think everyone is as polarised as they are in regards to their anti-speed enforcement views. They don't seem to consider just how great the potential percentage of the population shares the other view, or are at least indifferent.

Those who disagree make the most noise.

saaby93

864 posts

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Tim Horton said:
Romford, like many other boroughs, have regular officers trained in the use of speed detection devices, as there are not enough traffic officers to deal with the problems of speeding that are RAISED by the local COMMUNITIES! Excess speed normally comes up as a major item when we consult with the community, so should we ignore the taxpayers?
Education comes into this.
The lend them a speed gun ploy works well, they go out measure speeds and discover they're not that fast after all.
Also try to let them know what speed should be for a typical road
If it's built up and off the main drag 30 is ok. If it has another use such as a link road to somewhere else but still urban 40 might work better.
Dual carriageway 50/60/nsl
Explain that slower isn't necessarily safer, safest is when everyone's travelling about the same speed, raising the limit can help.
Education

tenohfive

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9 months

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Yet another, 'speed gun,' thread.

The same answer comes up every time - the people who go to community meetings, who get their voice heard when the police ask the public what they want are the ones often say that speeding in their area is an issue and that they want something doing about it.

The stock answer (which the OP has given) is, "the people who go to these meetings aren't an accurate representation of the public."



Heres a novel suggestion then (hope you're sitting down - its a shocker) :

Go to the meetings. Say that you think that speeding in your local area isn't an issue. Take likeminded people with you. Gather accident statistics that show that speed isn't the biggest cause of accidents in the places you want to remain camera free, if you really want to prove your point. If its important, do something about it.




Or don't. Get in your keyboard warrior chair and whinge about it on an internet forum.
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