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skeggysteve
2,551 posts
47 months
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Bizzle said: Yep and F1 drivers just steer the car in the direction they want to go and press the go pedal. You mean like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1Tiodhkv7gAbout the 12 second mark you get to see a proper drift 
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pinchmeimdreamin
1,182 posts
48 months
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 i thought this would be a video of a Puma with a Quiff diff
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RacerMDR
1,556 posts
40 months
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Bizzle said: RacerMDR said: whats the worst that can happen? We will video it, post it in General Gassing and publicly ridicule you for being mr big bol***ks.  RacerMDR said: What sort of budget does a drifter (club level) need out of interest? When i did a full competition season in 2008 it cost me £1000 per round (with full factory tyre sponsorship) yeah - i'll get ridiculed (I get that in my normal champ) but I get a free day dicking about in someones elses car, using their tyres!! Sounds like a good deal to me!  1k per round is about right for a circuit champ too......interesting!
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dorikin2009
28 posts
4 months
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mclaren-rule
53 posts
28 months
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typical pistonheads forum really always has to look for the worst in a situation whatever it is.
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sprinter1050
4,722 posts
57 months
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ocdgeek said: sprinter1050 said: I'm inclined to think once you've seen one drift show that's about it. Perhaps the same with Ken Block ? I mean he's a bit like those American bike stunt jumpers I'd say. Paid a fortune for performing in a narrowly defined range of motoring activity with not much success outside their chosen sphere- They do however possess that ALL-American trait of lots of show & "Pazazz" & marketability to go with it!
Anyway I'm off now to perform the World's leading execution of a 27.645 degree reverse-angle left turn on a unicycle.
Sponsorship anyone ??
(don't call with less than £1M offers ) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uPznTbus3g Damn- ! Does he log on to PH & copy my idea or did he just beat me to it !
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jonesyx
29 posts
52 months
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mft said: t84 said: Bizzle said: RacerMDR said: Marf said: Bizzle said: Mini1275 said: Right off you go, you go and do it and post a vid on here then?  .....chop chop i'm waiting. I'll lend you a car and can arange a track. It'd be funny if he was anyone else now you are talking! Ok - when, where? Santapod. November 11th. PH Legendary thread in the making? Oh yes Let's not let this one get buried... Amazing...
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tsibley
2 posts
10 months
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PascalBuyens
711 posts
112 months
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Sport Coupe said: I'm sure that if there was a load of TVR's drifting then there would be a few more nods of appreciation. But when the car of choice tends to be a 'Fast and Furious, just driven through the Halfords Ripspeed counter' type of Japanese car then it will only appeal to a certain ilk of follower. Drifters and racers both have great car control skills, so let’s not get into a debate about who is best and instead just marvel at the control over the machine in hand. For example - I really enjoyed watching Adrian Sutil throw the Force India into a drift/long power slide in Fridays free practice at the Brazilian GP a couple of weeks back. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OEwZZCwnGoI believe that there is a reason why they choose for Japanese cars... Relatively cheap performance, and the parts are a bit more "general available" then TVR parts... That being said, I do admit that drifters and rally pilots have as much skills as racers trying to follow the "ideal lines" (even drifters tend to do this). I like all styles to be honest, and I'd love to give my TVR a drifting try some day
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PascalBuyens
711 posts
112 months
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vz-r_dave said: PascalBuyens said: bennyboysvuk said: I think it's far easier to drift to that degree in a car like that than in your average car sheerly because of the steering lock that it can manage. The front wheels were almost 90 degress to the car! That combined with the fast steering ratio (he barely turns the wheel to get to the 90 degrees), and the rear wheels that are set up to make it go sideways too... What is the point you are trying to make here?? That a car set up for a purpose makes it easier. FFS thats like saying its easier to drift in a RWD car because its RWD. In general you'll find that it IS easier in a car, because I can't see you doing that in a FWD  My point was indeed to make clear that the car has been set up for drifting, and has the necessary adjustments to be able to do this kind of driving. I didn't break down the driver's skills at all, because, as easy as he makes it look, it does take some skill to keep the car going at that speed, that sideways. No need to "release your horse" for that, you can hold it
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vz-r_dave
1,780 posts
48 months
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dorikin2009 said: Honestly it suprises me that anyone can think that this is easily done hahahahha
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PascalBuyens
711 posts
112 months
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Marf said: He's trying to say its easy, totally missing the point that all cars in motorsport are setup to suit whatever discipline they are competing in. Sorry, for my part, I was just pointing out the car is indeed set up for drifting, which isn't only the steering angle of the front wheels, but also the steering lock ratio that has been lowered obviously looking at the little turns he has to make, and the rear wheels set up to make the car go sideways. Did I mention it's easy? NO, because I know it isn't, and takes some decent skills to do that. And anyone else saying different (even if they don't get it), sorry, but you're a bit wrong...
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Marf
8,954 posts
71 months
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PascalBuyens said: Marf said: He's trying to say its easy, totally missing the point that all cars in motorsport are setup to suit whatever discipline they are competing in. Sorry, for my part, I was just pointing out the car is indeed set up for drifting, which isn't only the steering angle of the front wheels, but also the steering lock ratio that has been lowered obviously looking at the little turns he has to make, and the rear wheels set up to make the car go sideways. Did I mention it's easy? NO, because I know it isn't, and takes some decent skills to do that. And anyone else saying different (even if they don't get it), sorry, but you're a bit wrong... Well with your overuse of ellipses and the tone of your post, it did seem like you were inferring that drifting was easy
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elster
9,978 posts
40 months
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ThirdShift said: Don't get too carried away thinking Ken Block is the drifting lord, he isnt. That commercial was shot over number of days using 4 Formula D drivers (Sam Hubinette, Vaughn gittin and i forget who else) If you look at the Tyre marks you'll have an indication into how many takes were done! Fantastic video though in the same way Back to the Future is a fantastic film! Both of which didn't really happen! My favorite drift video? This:- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EzMj71e5BAThe confusion in his voice when the error messages start going off! :-) How dare you get fact in the way of a good stoey!
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ApexJimi
4,372 posts
73 months
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t84 said: Bizzle said: RacerMDR said: Marf said: Bizzle said: Mini1275 said: Right off you go, you go and do it and post a vid on here then? .....chop chop i'm waiting. I'll lend you a car and can arange a track. It'd be funny if he was anyone else now you are talking! Ok - when, where? Santapod. November 11th. PH Legendary thread in the making? Indeed. To wit: RacerMDR said: i was going to say - that doesn't look particularly hard at all.......especially not in a car set up for it...
3/10 RacerMDR, I would like to see video evidence of you attempting the exact same move as shown in the OP clip, to which you refer to above as not looking particularly hard, with a 3/10 rating. Put your money where your mouth is my friend
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drakart
246 posts
40 months
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why has no one mentioned ice racing? Seems to be a very similar technique. It brought a smile to my face and it does take considerable skill and balls, but i wasn't blown away. I have a fair bit of experience of 100mph slides before any starts piping up!
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burling
17 posts
32 months
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For everyone that thinks there is not much skill involved, think about how good Tiff Needell is at drifting & sliding cars. He had a go in a proper set up drift car & even he struggled with his experience. Its not just get the car sideways aound each corner, the car must remain in a drift & not straighten up for whole lenght of course. Judges will tell drivers where they want the cars to be in each corner. e.g. turns 1 & 2 outside, turn 3 inside & so on. have a look at Drift on Rush HD, channel 452 on sky.
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civicsilver
10 posts
13 months
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Oh my....for the people saying he didn't mean to do it or it was a fluke save, your idiots. Kawabata is one of the best drivers and obviously tried something new to impress the judges, which obviously worked!! Watch, next year this will be standard practice/old news. AWESOME!
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clarkey318is
731 posts
4 months
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Thats some impressive stuff, that and Gigi's.
But I can't take anything from Japan seriously, not when their language sounds like that. It just sounds insane!
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Marf
8,954 posts
71 months
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clarkey318is said: But I can't take anything from Japan seriously, not when their language sounds like that. It just sounds insane! Mokujin
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