The "Sh*t Driving Caught On Cam" Thread (Vol 4)

The "Sh*t Driving Caught On Cam" Thread (Vol 4)

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Flibble

4,938 posts

125 months

Tuesday 13th August
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MrGTI6 said:
I wonder if the lane-hogger in the Qashqai is aware that HGVs can't use lane three.
I doubt they are aware that there is anything past the end of their bonnet.

Solocle

1,060 posts

28 months

Tuesday 13th August
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Krikkit said:
Blatantly no traffic ahead, has the lorry driver lost the use of his eyes?

The only way that ends up in an accident is if the Nissan starts brake-checking.
You have no imagination. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzUtyGc1tn8&fe... Both a reason to be in that lane, and a reason why the Nissan may need to brake suddenly.

InitialDave

5,042 posts

63 months

Tuesday 13th August
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Solocle said:
Looks like they were overtaking OP, and stayed out for the slip road. Nothing wrong with that. Hogging would need to see what happened before/after.
Normally I'd agree (saving pulling back into lane one until past the sliproad being a good habit), but the truck can't use the third lane, so while I'd usually stay out for the sliproad if it wasn't inconveniencing others, in that example I'd either speed up slightly to the lorry's pace, or pull in front of the camera car.

Solocle

1,060 posts

28 months

Tuesday 13th August
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InitialDave said:
Normally I'd agree (saving pulling back into lane one until past the sliproad being a good habit), but the truck can't use the third lane, so while I'd usually stay out for the sliproad if it wasn't inconveniencing others, in that example I'd either speed up slightly to the lorry's pace, or pull in front of the camera car.
I mean, the only reason the truck "can't" use the outside lane is a technical legal violation, whereas what he's doing is a seriously dangerous piece of illegal driving. I don't think anybody should be compelled to exceed the speed limit (I know, they're probably at 47, 50 indicated), and pulling left there would result in being boxed in, right next to a slip road. Personally, that's a situation I'd happily speed to avoid. Of course, this is all compounded by those 50 mph average limits and the abundance of cameras, so many are afraid of going 1 mph over.

Basically, it's a clusterfcensoredk, that could be avoided if some HGV drivers actually considered other road users.

Cold

7,130 posts

34 months

Tuesday 13th August
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InitialDave said:
Normally I'd agree (saving pulling back into lane one until past the sliproad being a good habit), but the truck can't use the third lane, so while I'd usually stay out for the sliproad if it wasn't inconveniencing others, in that example I'd either speed up slightly to the lorry's pace, or pull in front of the camera car.
Or - the lorry driver could stop driving like a tt. thumbup

saaby93

25,822 posts

122 months

Tuesday 13th August
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Looks like the truck driver is trying to make the car driver driver faster than what they think is the speed limit due to speedo discrepancies
There's nothing that says you must drive at the speed posted on the lollipops

MrGTI6

1,303 posts

74 months

Tuesday 13th August
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saaby93 said:
Looks like the truck driver is trying to make the car driver driver faster than what they think is the speed limit due to speedo discrepancies
There's nothing that says you must drive at the speed posted on the lollipops
Whilst I'm not condoning the lorry driver's tailgating, I think his issue was with the Qashqai driver's choice of lane rather than their speed.

Glenn63

501 posts

28 months

Tuesday 13th August
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I’d put considerable money on that the Nissan doesn’t have the intelligence to think of staying in lane 2 to help with possible people joining and has been sat in lane 2 since they joined the motorway and will continue to do so until 6 yards from their exit were they will anchor on to 30mph make a straight line to the exit oblivious to the mayhem caused around them.
Truck driver far to close but no wonder they get pissed off with morons like that on the road.

Centurion07

7,286 posts

191 months

Wednesday 14th August
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Solocle said:
Centurion07 said:
I didn't say he wasn't, but if you don't like being tailgated then move over.
It wasn't at any point appropriate to move over, except maybe into L3. Distances look further in dashcam. Moving into L1 when approaching a slip road, just to allow a lorry to box you in? NO. THANK. YOU.
It doesn't matter what distance the camera may or may not make it appear; the slip road doesn't appear until the very end of the clip some 25 seconds in, which is more than enough time that MLM should've moved over, nevermind the fact he's already in lane 2 when the clip begins so he sits there for +30 seconds and as someone else mentioned, he's probably there just because not for the upcoming entry slip.

Those 50 limits on motorways seem to attract more than their fair share of middle lane throbbers for some reason.

FWIW

1,104 posts

41 months

Wednesday 14th August
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Solocle said:
... pulling left there would result in being boxed in,
How would he be boxed in? The joining cars are also doing 50ish.
You are displaying the mentality of the person who sits in a queue in the outside lane when the inside lanes are empty because you don’t want to lose your place in the queue...
Qashqai is a brain dead throbber.

Ultra Sound Guy

27,041 posts

138 months

Wednesday 14th August
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Solocle said:
Basically, it's a clusterfcensoredk, that could be avoided if some other road users actually considered HGV drivers.
FTFY wavey

FreeLitres

5,534 posts

121 months

Wednesday 14th August
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FWIW said:
Solocle said:
... pulling left there would result in being boxed in,
How would he be boxed in? The joining cars are also doing 50ish.
You are displaying the mentality of the person who sits in a queue in the outside lane when the inside lanes are empty because you don’t want to lose your place in the queue...
Qashqai is a brain dead throbber.
He no doubt mans that the lorry in lane 2 would be alongside you, preventing a move back into lane 2 if you needed to make space for merging cars to enter from the slip.

saaby93

25,822 posts

122 months

Wednesday 14th August
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Centurion07 said:
Those 50 limits on motorways seem to attract more than their fair share of middle lane throbbers for some reason.
Theyve been trying out a number of roadworks without the 50 limits to see which is actually safer

JimSuperSix

2,951 posts

187 months

Wednesday 14th August
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FWIW said:
Solocle said:
... pulling left there would result in being boxed in,
How would he be boxed in? The joining cars are also doing 50ish.
You are displaying the mentality of the person who sits in a queue in the outside lane when the inside lanes are empty because you don’t want to lose your place in the queue...
Qashqai is a brain dead throbber.
Agreed, truck driver is getting way too close but the Nissan driver should move over.

However it's 100% typical of UK roads - if there are ANY lane or speed restrictions or cones, all lane discipline (such as it is) goes out of the window and people will stick to one lane no matter what as if the need to keep left unless overtaking is suddenly rendered void. And that's what the Nissan driver was doing.

Centurion07

7,286 posts

191 months

Wednesday 14th August
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Given how some people manage to crash with normal width lanes I can't see how letting them continue through at 70 in narrow lanes would be any safer....

FWIW

1,104 posts

41 months

Wednesday 14th August
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FreeLitres said:
He no doubt mans that the lorry in lane 2 would be alongside you, preventing a move back into lane 2 if you needed to make space for *merging* cars to enter from the slip.
You don’t *need* to make space for merging cars. It is up to the joining vehicle to give way and modify their speed in order to.......MERGE! It’s really surprisingly easy. In any case, the lorry would have been long gone by then.

lyonspride

2,057 posts

99 months

Wednesday 14th August
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Flibble said:
MrGTI6 said:
I wonder if the lane-hogger in the Qashqai is aware that HGVs can't use lane three.
I doubt they are aware that there is anything past the end of their bonnet.
I think you make excuses for them, they probably know full well what they're doing.

Torquey

1,625 posts

172 months

Wednesday 14th August
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There'd be less risk for all if the Nissan was to move over to lane 1. Joining cars from the slip road is no excuse and just complete laziness and incompetence by staying in lane 2.

The Nissan might have to touch the brakes slightly in the worse case - easier for him than the HGV.

Fermit and Sexy Sarah

6,979 posts

44 months

Wednesday 14th August
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I may be wrong, but IIRC specs controlled zones on motorways tell you to 'stay in lane' at the start, don't they?

I'm not defending the Nissan, there are two arguments (don't move left because of slip/ move over for lorry) but could it be that he believes he's complying with a request?

All said, I'd imagine the lorry is sitting on his 56mph limiter, knowing he's below the 10%+2mph threshold, refusing to slow for a car he's caught up with.

saaby93

25,822 posts

122 months

Wednesday 14th August
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Centurion07 said:
Given how some people manage to crash with normal width lanes I can't see how letting them continue through at 70 in narrow lanes would be any safer....
risk compensation