RE: Porsche Cayman GT4

Monday 22nd July

Porsche Cayman GT4 & Boxster Spyder | PH Video

Dan P heads to Scotland to see if Porsche Motorsport can outdo itself...



The 981 Porsche Cayman GT4 set the bar for a mid-engined, non-supercar coupe so high that we wondered what Stuttgart could do to scale the heights when the 718’s turn came. Extra power was almost a given, especially with a new 4.0-litre flat-six due. But better handling for a more involving experience? That was a tall task when the starting point was so sublime. Yet here we are, graced with another GT4 and, for the first time, a near identical Boxster Spyder, using the same running gear under a soft top body.

The 9A2 Evo boxer unit, which trades the turbocharging of the 992’s block for a new adaptive cylinder control software, different injectors and a variable intake system, features in both. It delivers 420hp, an increase of 35hp on the old 3.8 GT4, at 7,600rpm and 310lb ft of torque from 5,000rpm, with the limiter set at 8,000rpm. Mated to a manual six-speed gearbox, it pushes the pairing from 0-62mph in 4.4 seconds - plenty quick enough for cars which are built to deliver an immersive handling experience. 

Key to the GT4’s track performance is its aerodynamic package. There’s a large fixed rear wing as before, which has been further developed for more downforce, but it’s the addition of a large rear diffuser that helps to suck the car closer to the ground without adding drag. The diffuser is also on the Spyder and there’s an extending spoiler to match, giving it a substantial advantage over its less focussed predecessor. But the GT4’s racier exterior and lighter bodyshell leaves it with the superior overall performance, as illustrated by its 7:28 Nurbugring lap time. That’s four seconds quicker than the Carrera GT, by the way.

Dan, the lucky git, got the chance to see if both cars lived up to their on-paper enhancements - starting at Knockhill circuit in the GT4 and finishing on the surrounding roads in the Spyder. Has Porsche improved on near perfection? Get clicking.

 

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blue al

Original Poster:

113 posts

103 months

Saturday 20th July
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Video not working, although I've checked the change behind the sofa and it seems im still a few quid short, but it would still be nice to see what I cannot quite afford.


"We're processing this video. Check back later."


Edited by blue al on Saturday 20th July 09:38

Matt Bird

1,088 posts

149 months

PH Reportery Lad

Saturday 20th July
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Sorry all for delay in getting video live! Should be running smoothly now.


Enjoy!

SPYDER66

47 posts

38 months

Saturday 20th July
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Dan great informative video
?said you would stick if you owned 981 GT4
What would you do if you had 981 Spyder??

Davislove

2,163 posts

190 months

Saturday 20th July
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That’s a great fascinating video from Dan, more of them please.

Those ratios look like a deal breaker. Oh, and thanks to our ‘friends’ in the EU for those bloody filters! .....otherwise I’ll take the sypder please

Montaver

20 posts

136 months

Saturday 20th July
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Great video Dan, really loving your work. Along with Henry Catchpole you guys do the best reviews out there.

The US spec cars will be sans filter, very interesting to see how they sound. Removing that frustration your left with the gearing, I think Porsche do it intentionally so as not to step on the toes of the GT3. I watched another video with Andreas Pruninger(sp?) where he said a PDK version was coming, I suspect it will be mighty quick due to the increased flexibility.

I was hoping this would depress 981 values so I could afford the original, but seems like a bit of a downgrade over the 981 when you factor in the sound.

Davislove

2,163 posts

190 months

Saturday 20th July
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Montaver said:
The US spec cars will be sans filter, very interesting to see how they sound.
Wonder if you could buy the US specs parts and remove the filter yourself?

Schmed

1,112 posts

16 months

Saturday 20th July
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Too many cylinders, sounds like ste. Give me a faster 718 GTS pdk any day of the week smile.


IainR

49 posts

125 months

Saturday 20th July
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Great video Dan - thank you.

As an original GT4 owner, personally the gear ratios have never bothered me. It's just an all round brilliant car. Now hoping to swap to the 718 Spyder though, even if the sound is a bit muted. That's just the world we live in now and sometimes you just fancy a change.

Cylon2007

154 posts

22 months

Saturday 20th July
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Love the look of the Spyder (the other one is OK) but WTAF is it with that hood, looks good BUT surely they could have come up with either a much simpler manual hood or a proper powered one.

Gandahar

6,865 posts

72 months

Saturday 20th July
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Nice to see Dan back at PH again smile

I like Dan, Jethro and Henry on various channels, plus Grandpa Metcalfe, he's the best ever .... they have enthusiasm and analysis unlike going over the top and hamming it up for the cameras unlike some people who shall not be mentioned. Ok Clarkson and Harris. They were good at the start, got corrupted by their own egos and self masturbating social media channels.

Funnily enough I have started liking Mat Watson's stuff, even though when I first watched him ages back I thought he was a twonk. It might be that he does not take himself too seriously, is pretty funny and just stays the right side of being "me me me".

Or else I am just getting too soft on the journos after 35 years of reading / watching. redcard

LJK Setright was always over rated by the way. Bulgin was far better but then went a bit LJK later on. Wish he was still writing today though frown

Porsche911R

17,138 posts

209 months

Saturday 20th July
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Sums up my reviews 4 years back , great cars but not exciting ones, and very frustratingly the road.


Edited by Porsche911R on Sunday 21st July 16:37

Nerdherder

1,202 posts

41 months

Saturday 20th July
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Gandahar said:
Nice to see Dan back at PH again smile

I like Dan, Jethro and Henry on various channels, plus Grandpa Metcalfe, he's the best ever .... they have enthusiasm and analysis unlike going over the top and hamming it up for the cameras unlike some people who shall not be mentioned. Ok Clarkson and Harris. They were good at the start, got corrupted by their own egos and self masturbating social media channels.

Funnily enough I have started liking Mat Watson's stuff, even though when I first watched him ages back I thought he was a twonk. It might be that he does not take himself too seriously, is pretty funny and just stays the right side of being "me me me".
Fully agreed! Also a fan of Doug Demuro tbh. One of the few American I can stand.

Gandahar

6,865 posts

72 months

Saturday 20th July
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Nerdherder said:
Gandahar said:
Nice to see Dan back at PH again smile

I like Dan, Jethro and Henry on various channels, plus Grandpa Metcalfe, he's the best ever .... they have enthusiasm and analysis unlike going over the top and hamming it up for the cameras unlike some people who shall not be mentioned. Ok Clarkson and Harris. They were good at the start, got corrupted by their own egos and self masturbating social media channels.

Funnily enough I have started liking Mat Watson's stuff, even though when I first watched him ages back I thought he was a twonk. It might be that he does not take himself too seriously, is pretty funny and just stays the right side of being "me me me".
Fully agreed! Also a fan of Doug Demuro tbh. One of the few American I can stand.
Cheers for mentioning Doug, I was thinking about him as well when I wrote that. I like Doug as he has his own style of reviews.

It will be interesting to see how he goes on as fame and stardom continue to grow his bank balance. The great thing about youtube is you can easily flick back a few years to compare and contrast. Doug's earlier reviews a lot different. The cross over will be when the Doug reviews become more about him than the cars. I hope he spots this in time. Perhaps it has already happened?

The funniest thing in motoring is Doug giving a handling score out for driving some car down a ramp from the Taco Bell to the freeway with a slight corner.... biggrin He's no Didier Auriol is he?

unsprung

3,266 posts

68 months

Saturday 20th July
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Dan P. said:
It's a bit like Tom Jones trying to sing through a ball gag.
hehe

outstanding extemporaneous speaking (not just the ball gag gag, but the whole of the on-road segments)

driving and talking use different parts of the brain, so it's always impressive to see somebody behind the wheel speak fluidly and with quite a range in vocabulary whilst emitting almost no ums and uhs


sideways man

683 posts

81 months

Sunday 21st July
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A journalist who prefers the older model; it’s actually good to read an honest opinion and not just ‘newer is better ‘.

Mutema

739 posts

94 months

Sunday 21st July
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sideways man said:
A journalist who prefers the older model; it’s actually good to read an honest opinion and not just ‘newer is better ‘.
Exactly my thought.

seawise

1,492 posts

150 months

Sunday 21st July
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Brilliant balanced and slick video, really enjoyed it.

richardsheen

39 posts

130 months

Sunday 21st July
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Put my name down for a Spyder last year. Only thing would change by flat 6 Cayman GTS PDK for! Unless they bring out the GT4 tourer!

PhantomPH

3,061 posts

169 months

Sunday 21st July
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I'll take a Spyder....with a PDK. Hopefully they will offer it with that box in 2020.

(Hate to say this, but I don't like the sound...* face punch * )

hornbaek

3,112 posts

179 months

Sunday 21st July
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Enjoyed the video - well presented.

We are entering frustrating times and the end of the NA engine is near. Increasingly manufacturers have to compromise on certain issues ( sound, power etc ) to meet ever more stringent regulations and it will end with the fact that previous models were the better ones as we are descending from the peak rather than continuously climbing towards it. Electrification will take over and that will go much faster than we think. I like the Cayman and the Speedster, but I will not buy a NA engined car. They are too compromised.